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Ordinary British Citizens Fighting Against Religion

14 Feb

Seeing that I am currently in hospital (again) I have been on the internet just browsing around, on youtube watching some make up tutorials and reviews and being on Facebook.  But guess what I found along the way, I found two articles on The Guardian website that has made me really proud of the British atheist community.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/10/christian-lose-appeal-gay-guests

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/10/prayers-ban-council-meetings-devon?INTCMP=SRCH

The second article does bear striking similarity as such to the Jessica Ahlquist fight against her school in America.  It is nice to know that there are people in England that too will fight for the separation of religion from the state and also fight against religion’s prejudices e.g. homosexuality, sex before marriage etc.

It is very striking that in both articles, the religious community are stating that it is they that are being victimised and sidelined in society, that they are not being treated fairly.  The whole point is that they can believe in whatever/whoever they want, but their religion has no place in British politics.  To be in politics you are representing a plurality of people that believe/not believe in different religions.  What your own personal beliefs are should not have any influence on your decisions in politics.  The decisions made should encompass as much of society as possible.  We all know where Tony Blair and George Bush ended up!

And they have no right to try to change what people want to do just because their actions do not fit in to what the religious believe.  Just like it is the law to not incite religious hatred towards another religion, there is another law that protects homosexuality that should also be observed and followed.  Just because homosexuality is deemed evil and immoral somehow in the bible does not mean that the law should reflect this.  NO!  Who is victimising and sidelining who now!?

No one follows the bible to its exact wording and laws.  The ones that they do not follow or believe in, they say things like, oh its supposed to be a metaphor or it made sense in their time but we have evolved since then.  If this is supposed to be the word of god then how could it be so malleable.

I do not want to come on so strong but I find that people that follow the bible are hypocrites.  The reason I think this is because they seem to cherry pick which ones to follow and which ones to be discarded.  Please see the link below, I was going to give you a list but this person has written it better than me to be fair!

http://www.bspcn.com/2009/06/23/11-things-the-bible-bans-but-you-do-anyway/

Now I have gone onto the Chymorvah Hotel website (the first example at the beginning of this post where the couple did not allow a homosexual couple to stay in the same room together).   I have had a look at their menu and my my my, what good Christians they REALLY are!  If they are a fan of such outdated beliefs as their lawyer’s defence was, then why in their menu do they offer (shock horror) BACON!!??

http://www.chymorvah.co.uk/menu.html

I do find it hypocritical also that they have put at the side of that page “There are no petty restrictions; you can come and go as you like – Chymorvah is your home while you are with us and our aim is to make your holiday one to remember.”  Yeah thats great, unless you are homosexual!

Now for the other story mentioned at the beginning where the prayers have been quite rightly banned from official council meetings here is the following:  (Matthew 22: 17 – 21) “Tell us, then, what you think. Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, or not?” But Jesus, aware of their malice, said, “Why put me to the test, you hypocrites? Show me the coin for the tax.” And they brought him a denarius. And Jesus said to them, “Whose likeness and inscription is this?” They said, “Caesar’s.” Then he said to them, “Therefore render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

The council is there to serve society, not god.  The church is there to serve god.  Jesus was able to distinguish between the two and advocate himself the separation of church from the state.  So these people wanting to have prayers in the council meetings are going against their dear sweet Jesus and his own words!

Both of the religious sides that lost in this case both screamed “discrimination!”  That their freedom of belief is being taken away, that their religion in society is being sidelined.  I say to them this, you want the courts to uphold and back your decisions to be discriminatory against those that do not believe or those that do not act accordingly to your own beliefs because you have some kind of divine backing.  You want the courts to add some legal weight behind your punches so to speak.  But religion will only allow the courts, the law of the land, to intervene when it will only benefit them, when it will only strengthen their own position.  How about letting the law of the land in to investigate and prosecute the priests that are sexually abusing young children!?  How about doing that!?

The religious – they hear what they want to hear, they choose to follow what they want to follow.  On the other hand, the British law does not cherry pick, it is more equal to everyone compared to the bible.  The law of the land is more unbiased than the bible.  Believe what you want to believe, but do not firstly try and force the belief on others and secondly do not try and force that belief on others by trying to infiltrate the state/politics.  If someone is not in the religious eyes a good person or not following the bible then what right do they have to try and force their beliefs, their opinions and their bible on to that person!?  Not only do the religious need to be considered fairly and have the right to believe, but the non-believers/atheists have the right to freedom from your beliefs and to be considered fairly also.

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6 responses to “Ordinary British Citizens Fighting Against Religion

  1. rowanwphillips

    February 14, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    I think the problem tends to stem from a religious person’s belief that the way they’ve been taught to do things is the only way possible, to allow anyone else to live a different way of life in some way makes them less holy or righteous. As much as ‘moderate’ religious leaders speak of tolerance, they only really mean tolerance of other religious people who follow a similar rule book rather than tolerance of all people who have no adverse effect on your own life. As long as the allowing of ‘sin’ is perceived as a sin in itself people will feel it is not only their right but also their duty to persecute people who happen to be gay etc. I also detest the way that religious people seem to presume that nobody could possibly be offended or embarrased by their public religious practise but cannot tolerate an atheist or secular way of life. The removal of all is the persecution of none.

     
    • britishfemaleatheist1

      February 15, 2012 at 8:52 am

      That is a very interesting point of view I have never really thought of before where you say that tolerant religious people are only tolerant with other religions who are similar. Thank you for your input.

       
  2. Fred Harvey

    February 14, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    Well blogged BFA, good health to you, soon, and keep up the good work.
    The thought occurred to me that theists trying to force laws that favour their belief system don’t even realize what they are doing. If a government can be influenced to pass such laws, if the walls separating state from faith are broken down they are broken for all purposes. How would the Christians, so intent on the law reflecting their beliefs, feel if a predominantly Muslim government was voted in, and used the precedent the Christians had set, to bring Shariah Law into Britain, or Australia, or the U.S of A etc,?

     
    • britishfemaleatheist1

      February 14, 2012 at 2:40 pm

      Thank you Fred Harvey and you have put across clearly a really good point! Religions only serve exclusively for their own and for their own purposes. If the outcome does not go in their favour then they scream religious discrimination!

       
  3. Clark Reid

    February 14, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    Well written and fairly seen, Stefania. Hope you’re out of the hospital soon! Take care!
    Clark

     
    • britishfemaleatheist1

      February 14, 2012 at 1:56 pm

      Thank you very much Clark. I hope I am out soon too. In the meantime I have already found another article to write about that will keep me busy! Watch out for that one in the next couple of days 🙂

       

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